Petition for ttt rule addition

[[DtK] [T] LordGebus]

Delayers are a problem in ttt, especially if they are repeat offenders
i propose 2 possible solutions to this issue.


proposition 1:
to admins discretion, they can apply warns to those they deem to be delaying and are known to be repeat offenders.

proposition 2:
have a system in place that can actively deny a player the ability to be a traitor for a period of time, sort of like a mute/gag. Timeframes for T ban could but does not have to follow the standard ban timeframes (2hr, 4hr etc.) This could be applied silently, unbenounced to the player even.

thoughts?

[[DtK] [Jedi] Cindy]

Imo, I think its just mean if this system existed as I think that every player deserves a chance of fair game play such as receiving traitor (even though its random).

I know its frustrating seeing someone like *cough cough* medic bag delay, but at the end of the day players will just lose interest on the server if this were to be implemented. There's a reason why rules exist and if people want to delay and take foreverrrrr to get a single kill as a traitor then punishments (verbal warns, warns) will be issued.

[[DtK] [N] Frosty7]

unbenounced PepeLaugh

i disagree though, admins should just use beacon or similar current methods more actively, shadowbanning someone from being t would be too much.

[[DtK] [V] Bear.]

proposition 1:
to admins discretion, they can apply warns to those they deem to be delaying and are known to be repeat offenders.

Any mutes/warnings/anything have always been up to admin discretion for the most part. Its up to the admin on minor decisions like that. (Unless the rules changed recently :P)

[[DtK] [V] TayK47]

It's their own loss for delaying. It puts them at a huge disadvantage since you can generally use your brain to figure out which players tend to delay, and marked them as Traitors. The first 15-30 seconds are crucial in setting up your team for the rest of the round, and if you cant get kills early-round, late round is almost impossible. It also puts them at more of a risk of being tased.
IMO, I prefer to tase known delayers early-round to maintain fast gameplay.

I do agree, however, that beacons should be issued alot more often/easily for these repeat offenders as an encouragement.
How else will they learn to get kills early game?

[[DtK] [V] Bear.]

I do agree, however, that beacons should be issued alot more often/easily for these repeat offenders as an encouragement.
How else will they learn to get kills early game?

Issuing beacons is always difficult, it's not as clear cut, and for the most part, if the admin starts spectating the person 1 minute into the delay they have to watch them for at least a solid 30-50 seconds more.
People were always and id assume are still always quick to call a delay, theres a reason why beacons aren't used as often as you think they should.
Even if they are 'repeat' offenders it takes time to beacon them.

[[DtK] [V] TayK47]

Even if they are 'repeat' offenders it takes time to beacon them.

I 100% agree with these statements. However, I am proposing that the time it is required before being issued a beacon be shortened. I understand that it is subjective, with different scenarios being viewed from different perspectives, which is why it is up to admin discretion.

It is important to refer back to the listed rules:

"4. Delaying: Traitors are not allowed to delay the game you must always be actively fulfilling your objective. Delaying can be done by Traitors not taking easy kills offered to them or going a long time without trying to kill players. Traitors are allowed to camp but as long as they are doing their objective and killing Innocents and Detectives while doing so."

Quite frankly, players who are repeat offenders (Medic Bag & Quez) just aren't learning from verbal warnings.

[[DtK] [Jedi] pyra]

Dealing with players delaying is ultimately admin discretion and we are not adding any more rules directed towards it anytime soon. thanks for the feedback.

[[DtK] [JA] PotassiumK]

I think alot of the complaints about delaying arent actually about a player that is delaying, If the T is searching around the map but just cant find people it isnt delaying and admins cant beacon them. Often players complain about delaying just because they are bored of spectating and just want the round to end

[[DtK] [V] Prophet]

change round length to 4 minutes?

[[DtK] [Jedi] Gooby_Pls]

Recommended reading list for when player is taking too long to find innocents:
James Joyce- Ulysses
Homer- The Illiad
Hiedigger- Being and Time
Jean Baudrillard- Simulation and Simulacra
The Very Hungry Caterpillar- Eric Carle

[[DtK] [V] the presidant]

hello krezand