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    TTT rdm and false KOS prevention method suggestion

    Maybe at the round start, implement some sort of mini quiz the players need to answer correctly before they play?

    or atleast a menu with basic rules to get them started?

    EDIT:
    Maybe ill whip something up and the admins could trial it?

    EDIT 2:
    Ill' just go into a little more detail, so people can understand easier

    My idea was that every time a client joins the server, once they select a team, a SourceMod AMX menu would popup with basic rules on a few pages.

    Example:

    H: Innocent Role (1/5)
    1. Try not to be killed.
    2. Among you are the traitors,
    3. they will kill innocents and
    4. detectives.
    5. Scan bodies to help your
    6. innocent friends!
    7. Don't commit traitorous acts!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Detective Role (2/5)
    1. Protect the innocents.
    2. Traitors will kill you and
    3. the innocents.
    4. Find and kill them.
    5. A taser (Zues) will tell you
    6. a person's role in the game.
    7. Don't kill the Innocents!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Traitor Role (3/5)
    1. Kill the innocents and
    2. Detectives!
    3. Don't get caught and
    4. killed, help your traitor
    5. friends!
    6. Use !shop for handy
    7. traitor tools!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Traitorous Acts (4/5)
    1. Killing innocents and
    2. Detectives.
    3. Using traitor equipment
    4. and Traitor Rooms
    5. Not ID-ing bodies
    6. Referring yourself as a
    7. traitor.
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: More Info! (5/5)
    1. For more helpful info
    2. and the full set of rules,
    3. type !ttt in chat or visit
    4. the DTK forums!
    5. #Blank#
    6. Do you understand?
    7. Yes
    8. #Blank#
    9. No

    Maybe during the game if someone isn't sure about the rules, or forgot, they could type "!rules" or something to see that popup again, or an admin could re-enable it so they see it again. If they voted no on the last menu, maybe it could alert an admin so they can confront before an issue arises.

    Just a thought!
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    So are you saying like before you even get to choose your team or something alone those lines? also would every player have to do it every single time they joined the server or would only new players do it???
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    no that is really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid and a similar thing was implemented to ttt before but removed for being ♥♥♥♥ing retarded

    hitting the wrong answer = getting kicked and being forced to rejoin, not to mention itd just completely put off new players

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew267811 View Post
    So are you saying like before you even get to choose your team or something alone those lines? also would every player have to do it every single time they joined the server or would only new players do it???
    Quote Originally Posted by malala View Post
    no that is really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid and a similar thing was implemented to ttt before but removed for being ♥♥♥♥ing retarded

    hitting the wrong answer = getting kicked and being forced to rejoin, not to mention itd just completely put off new players
    Matt: I mean something similar to what Kill Zone Gaming has, where it has some of their major rules on a popup dialogue menu and you have to select the right rule to be able to move the player i guess?

    Malala: I understand how frustrating the old system was, but if everyone knew the rules (which they should if they're frequent) then they wouldn't get kicked, besides, I think a new system shouldn't kick a player for not completely understanding the rules, instead help them to learn and understand them.

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    What's wrong with it now? It wont stop people from rdming and false kosing imo

    but what do i know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetMuhammad View Post
    What's wrong with it now? It wont stop people from rdming and false kosing imo

    but what do i know?
    Well, its just a thought, atleast they cant say they weren't notified, also a god idea for old players being notified for new rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by malala View Post
    no that is really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid and a similar thing was implemented to ttt before but removed for being ♥♥♥♥ing retarded

    hitting the wrong answer = getting kicked and being forced to rejoin, not to mention itd just completely put off new players
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    sounds like a good idea in writing. not so good in practice
    used to be a surf admin when that was a thing

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    >I understand how frustrating the old system was, but if everyone knew the rules (which they should if they're frequent) then they wouldn't get kicked, besides, I think a >new system shouldn't kick a player for not completely understanding the rules, instead help them to learn and understand them.
    if it wont kick them then how do you stop them playing?
    also if it done via a sourcemod menu it wont always show up and will close on its own leading to a kick/whatever idea you had in mind, there was a reason it got removed and bara is never adding anything like it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias, The Gentleman View Post
    Maybe at the round start, implement some sort of mini quiz the players need to answer correctly before they play?

    or atleast a menu with basic rules to get them started?

    EDIT:
    Maybe ill whip something up and the admins could trial it?

    As much as I don't think this will benefit the server, I do want to thank you for putting forward a suggestion and I don't think some of the hostility in responses is needed. Everyone is entitled to make suggestions whether they will realistically work well on the server or not, each suggestion can have things looked at and adapted whether it complies with the original suggestion or not the server is able to benefit from all suggestions or at least to gain a view point from players.
    you do make a good point about basic rules being shown. I understand the current rule set is quite large and new players are not going to spend their time reading the whole thing, but such a large rule set was adapted because a lot of players on TTT do try and bypass rules and find loop holes.


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    As KT has said thanks for your suggestions. Now when the server first started it did have a menu were you had to agree to the rules. If you didnt accept them fast enough or if you selected the wrong option then you got kicked. Now since ive become admin this feature has been removed as have alot of other things. Now maybe the previous admin team felt it was unnecessary or it was disable when the build got updated.

    As an Admin team we will look into this, discuss and reply back to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlock View Post
    Now since ive become admin this feature has been removed as have alot of other things. Now maybe the previous admin team felt it was unnecessary or it was disable when the build got updated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias, The Gentleman View Post
    Maybe at the round start, implement some sort of mini quiz the players need to answer correctly before they play?

    or atleast a menu with basic rules to get them started?

    EDIT:
    Maybe ill whip something up and the admins could trial it?

    EDIT 2:
    Ill' just go into a little more detail, so people can understand easier

    My idea was that every time a client joins the server, once they select a team, a SourceMod AMX menu would popup with basic rules on a few pages.

    Example:

    H: Innocent Role (1/5)
    1. Try not to be killed.
    2. Among you are the traitors,
    3. they will kill innocents and
    4. detectives.
    5. Scan bodies to help your
    6. innocent friends!
    7. Don't commit traitorous acts!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Detective Role (2/5)
    1. Protect the innocents.
    2. Traitors will kill you and
    3. the innocents.
    4. Find and kill them.
    5. A taser (Zues) will tell you
    6. a person's role in the game.
    7. Don't kill the Innocents!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Traitor Role (3/5)
    1. Kill the innocents and
    2. Detectives!
    3. Don't get caught and
    4. killed, help your traitor
    5. friends!
    6. Use !shop for handy
    7. traitor tools!
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: Traitorous Acts (4/5)
    1. Killing innocents and
    2. Detectives.
    3. Using traitor equipment
    4. and Traitor Rooms
    5. Not ID-ing bodies
    6. Referring yourself as a
    7. traitor.
    8. #Blank#
    9. Next

    H: More Info! (5/5)
    1. For more helpful info
    2. and the full set of rules,
    3. type !ttt in chat or visit
    4. the DTK forums!
    5. #Blank#
    6. Do you understand?
    7. Yes
    8. #Blank#
    9. No

    Maybe during the game if someone isn't sure about the rules, or forgot, they could type "!rules" or something to see that popup again, or an admin could re-enable it so they see it again. If they voted no on the last menu, maybe it could alert an admin so they can confront before an issue arises.

    Just a thought!
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